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Vote these four planes into the M:EM?
Yea 20%  20%  [ 1 ]
Nay 20%  20%  [ 1 ]
Not As Is 60%  60%  [ 3 ]
Abstain 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:15 am 
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Erukai, Sekharis, Cletfard, and Terminus
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Status: Open :chaos:

These four planes were collectively designed in the Make-a-Plane Game. If it's all right with everyone, I'd like to have them officially voted into the archives.

Erukai


Sekharis


Cletfard


Terminus

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It's weird to go back over these and find the things I do and do not remember.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:10 am 
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While there are small nuggets of information that could make these interesting worlds, all of them feel like some prepubescent teen's first attempt at worldbuilding. Especially the first two which are said to have an aesthetic inspiration, then almost nothing in the text supports that aesthetic. The various random bits cobbled together, and not just the miscellania, feel like random "wouldn't this be cool" additions from a young mind.

I'm voting Nay.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:16 am 
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I want to vote for Cletfard and Terminus. At least, I'd love those two to be the subjects of more detailed community worldbuilding and run for real. But I can't accept them as they are now and Erukai and Sekharis feel like the sort of throwaway plane you might visit on an "adventure" story but that isn't worthy of its own Planeswalker's Guide (A lot like some of the M:EM's very first additions like Valjan classic, Zent, and Keter).

I'm voting NAI but it's basically a Nay vote, I just want to say that I'd like to see at least half of these move forward and be worked into real, usable things.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:09 pm 
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The various random bits cobbled together, and not just the miscellania, feel like random "wouldn't this be cool" additions

I mean, that basically is what happened.

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Solphos: Solphos | Fool's Gold | Planeswalker's Guide | The Guiding Light | The Weight of a Soul
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:24 pm 
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The various random bits cobbled together, and not just the miscellania, feel like random "wouldn't this be cool" additions

I mean, that basically is what happened.

That doesn't mean they're complete enough to warrant being voted on.

I know I didn't voice it well, but like Tevish there are elements of several of these worlds I'm interested in if they were more fully developed. Hell, if there was a story or two that took place on one of these planes to actually build it up as something beyond these index-card-sized guides, then I might say Yea on the notion of yet further expansion, but none of these wholes as they are right now are nearly engaging enough for me to consider their inclusion. These all have good ideas in them, but none of them have any execution right now, and personally I feel the days to let things in without a good execution are over.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:26 am 
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I need to evoke my inner four-armed Vedalken here.

On one hand, my first instinct with these is that I would rather they be more fully developed before voted into the Archive.

On the other hand, we have planes in the Archive that are equally, or even less, developed than these, so maybe that doesn't really matter.

On the other other hand, if these are not all that developed, and not being used as a story, do they really need to officially be in the Archive anyway? If someone wanted to write something set on one or more of these planes, there is nothing in the rules to say they can't, and if they story were voted it, the plane or planes would come along with it.

On the still other hand, I have no complaints about write-ups here. Their quality, I think, is perfectly fine for the source material, and I don't think there's a problem with any of the information.

I think for me, ultimately, it comes down to that fact that these really don't need to be voted in yet. I would love to see stories based on these planes, particularly Terminus (regardless of how much it reminds me of Persona 3) and once that happens, I like the idea of having a dossier for the plane, but for right now, I'll have to say Not As Is, pending either further development or stories attached to them.

Also, when and if these do get voted in, I'd rather see them voted in separately, despite coming from the same thread.


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I'm pretty much on board with the NAI vote. When it comes down to it, there just needs to be a bit more of a motivating factor in forming an attachment to these. Whether that's more time in development or just a feature in a story, it doesn't really matter.

But that really isn't to say I don't want to see more of them. As someone who habitually (damn near compulsively) makes worlds, there just has to be more of a hook on them. That's just speaking out of my experience.

...all my poor poor neglected worlds.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:16 pm 
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This vote has been Rejected with a majority Not As Is vote, mostly requesting further development.


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