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PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:44 am 
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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:22 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:42 am 
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wtf u can report PMs

sometimes people send inappropriate PMs? seems reasonable to me.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:13 am 
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You can report pm's just as you can report posts, because people can do as many things wrong over pm's as posts.

Although generally, it's a lot worse if your pm gets reported because people pming each other generally understand and don't mind the other person's sense of humor.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:35 pm 
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razorborne wrote:
wtf u can report PMs

sometimes people send inappropriate PMs? seems reasonable to me.

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take a screenshot

why not integrate it into the system?

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:37 pm 
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i don't want the mods reading my pms it makes me feel dirty...


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:58 pm 
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Lilan wrote:
i don't want the mods reading my pms it makes me feel dirty...


We see all. We know all.

Seriously though just to clarify we can't read your PM's unless they are reported to us. That is why they are called Private Messages. And the reason the ability to report them exists is, as other people have mentioned, so we have some ability to deal with abusive behaviour happening 'behind the scenes'. If you send someone a PM full of insults and slurs they have just as much reason to report that as if you had simply posted an insult on the forums proper.

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sounds reasonable


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:34 pm 
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what if user A insults user B when talking to user C and user C reports user A for it?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:57 pm 
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what if user door insults user mjack when talking to user lilan and user lilan reports user door for it?


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:07 am 
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Let's all never find out. Sounds like the best course of action all around, really. :)

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:22 am 
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This thread has been erroneously closed: viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10061

I held a flavor text contest and promised the winners that I would nominate their cards for CotW. After being rejected from CotW for being reprints of a preexisting card (albeit with new flavor) I decided I'd try to do the next best thing for them and create my own thread with my own poll so we could at the very least see which flavor design the community liked the most.

For some reason, my thread was treated as "a joke" and "spam" by a moderator and apparently (despite the fact that making a poll requires making a new thread) I was told "multiple threads around a joke is disruptive and distracting".

This is not moderation. This is denying content because it doesn't fit the moderator's arbitrary template. It's denying a post for having an element of humor and satire despite it having complete legitimacy beyond that fact.

The fact that a thread like this has been closed is frankly an outrage. Whether in this thread publicly or privately in PMs, I would like to discuss this with a moderator. Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:31 am 
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If you'd care to PM me about it, we can absolutely have that discussion. (Though I'll actually be going to bed soon, so there may be an intermission for sleep.)

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:39 am 
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PM sent.

I'll bump this thread later if the dialogue slows down or stops. Any other mods who are willing to dialogue about this are more than welcome to do so.


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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:25 am 
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while I've made my stance on this fairly clear in the CotW thread, I figured I'd point out that this:

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(despite the fact that making a poll requires making a new thread)
isn't right, you can add a poll at any time by editing the OP of the thread.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:41 am 
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I'd like to chime in with my opinion as an outside viewer.

The thread in question isn't what I would define as spam or malicious. Rubik created a contest (admittedly, an apparently joke contest) in which plenty of users participated. It's common practice for our contests to have separate voting threads created afterwards to direct attention to them. The cards that won from that contest were added to our weekly forum contest, but denied entry because they didn't fit the spirit of that contest, which I feel is ultimately fine and within the discretion of the contest host to decide. This denial doesn't mean that the new thread shouldn't exist, even as a parody.

That said, Rubik, you've garnered a reputation as a spammer. I don't really know your posting habits, yet I've heard about it from multiple forum members from the WOTC days. I'm not sure whether or not this is a fair assessment, but it exists. What I would have liked to see from moderation in regards to this thread's closure is the following: (1) An explanation of why the thread in question is being closed. (2) Instruction or suggestion on alternatives, namely the fact that the original thread could have its original post edited to include a poll. (It can, Rubik; I just double-checked.) (3) Clear correspondence between Rubik and the mod in question. I don't actually know what our moderation policies are here; I haven't been much involved. When I say clear, I don't necessarily mean transparent. The issue can be handled over PM.

If any of the mods could respond to the policies I've questioned, I'd appreciate hearing about it all.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:16 am 
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@Razor: Making a poll in the same thread as the submissions is a surefire way to decrease poll awareness for voters.

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@Rush: Back on WotC, I posted on KoS, but I kept any spamming I did limited to that forum. I was primarily an RPer and the majority of my 9000+ posts on Wizards were from RPing. I was by no means someone who spammed anywhere that didn't allow for it.

I appreciate your support; I'm currently talking to GobO_Althalus about this issue in PMs.


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Okay. I didn't intend on making you out to be a spammer; I just heard you were back when we all WOTC'd together.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:48 am 
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Rubik is less of a spammer than me.

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 Post subject: Re: moderation comment
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I'd like to suggest an amendment to the CoC that would let everyone get along amicably.


Code of Conduct: Section One: Content
The moderators and staff of No Goblins Allowed strive to create a welcoming environment open to all those interested in tabletop games and the creative opportunities they afford. We have a low tolerance for content. This means (among other things):

Do not post.
Do not create.
This is out of necessity.
You will not receive an official warning from the moderators for posting in a language. However, repeatedly running afoul of this rule could result in a warning for spamming.

This policy encompasses all content posted directly to the site, including but not limited to forum posts, the wiki, avatars, user names, signatures, and private messages.






I think with this simple change we can solve a lot of problems and grow as a community.




On a serious note, this was just a cute observation of what can be done with paraphrasing! "See, the rules say, Do not post!". :D

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